I wonder if they are still going to have their fantasy place that they wanted so badly, the end of the book may have put a damper on that though. The way that John Steinbeck portrayed the ending shows that it wasn't the ending for them, that there was still life after that, if that makes sense. They walk away from the river in a small manner, just like the beginning, when George and Lennie first came into the book it was when they were down by the, or a river and that is also how it ends. They come to the river in the beginning and leave the river in the end.
I found several similes in the last couple chapters of the book and some of the main ones that I noticed right away were; "he came as silently as a creeping bear moves." on page 110. "her body flopped like a fish." was another one on page 100.
The way Lennie had reacted in the end had shown that he was way stronger than he thought he was a shows another side of him. The side that is shown is his angry side. When Crooks says that George is hurt, Lennie gets really mad about that, which also shows his anger in the end.
George in the end, is shown to be able to do something that is very hard for him. George does it out of the kindness of his heart and how he knew it would have been a lot harder for him to bare if the others did it. It shows how strong his character is also. And who knows, maybe after the story stops, it isn't the end for him and his fellow workers.
I like the way that Autumn talks about George and how he had to execute that difficult task, it reminds me of how Candy felt when they had to shoot his dog. I think very similar emotions were felt between George and Candy, because they both lost an old important friend. I also like the way she compared the beginning of the book to the end, i hadn't thought of it in that way but it is an interesting perspective. The quotes Autumn alluted to were also very interesting and if i had not finished the book would be very confusing! Good job my Chicken :)
I am wondering if Lennie and George will end up making it through the month of work, so they are able to buy the old ladies house. I would say they are going to make it through, but with lots of difficulties. At this point I’ve passed the activating circumstance, which in my opinion, was when George and Lennie arrived at the farm. In chapter 3, I found an example of an alliteration when George said “god damn dumb” speaking about lennie. When whit and George are talking during their card game whit states,”well, ain’t she a looloo,” talking about Curley’s wife. Looloo is a word, which used is a substitute instead of saying skank. When George says, “These here jail baits is just set on a trigger of the hoosegow.” Ultimately, this means they are just a trap to get guys thrown in jail. I’m predicting that Curley’s wife will end up messing around with Lennie or George and get them thrown in jail or get them in really big trouble.
The book seems to be getting pretty interesting. One thing that I didn't like was that Candy's dog was killed, even though the dog was pretty useless. Candy was sad that he didn't kill the dog himself, "I ought to if shot the dog myself, George. I shouldn't ought to of let no stranger shoot my dog." he feels guilty about letting Carlson do it. One thing that I don't like is how people treat Lennie, like I know he's a bit slower but George has even said "I ain't nothing to scream about, but that big bastard there can put up more grain alone than more pairs can" so he is capable of working but people just judge him right off the bat.
I think that it's cool that Lennie loves animals so much and that's all he wants to care for. I think that Slim needs to take it easy on Lennie, he tells him that he shouldn't be touching the pups much anymore I don't understand why, Lennie loves the pups and he tries to be very gentle with them and if he's not hurting them and if there okay then there's not a problem. So I look forward to reading more of the book and reading about what happens.
I find it interesting that "Curley's wife" is not known under any other name. It is obvious the she will forever be "Curly 's wife" and nothing more. I feel that it shows a certain level of subconscious ownership. Like she is nothing more than a material possession but only Curly is entitled to her. I believe that everybody has the right to a respectful and individual title and call me naive but I also believe that everyone should be treated equally and justly. After being referred to under another persons name in that way it would be easy to slowly lose independence, individuality, and personal rights and freedoms. But only in a perfect world would that happen.
Chapter 4: This chapter starts out by using several alliterations, such as "stuffing sticking" and "saddle soap". Steinbeck then uses personification in saying "Lennie lost his smile". When he says that, its sounds better than saying, Lennie frowned. After going into Crooks room, Lennie grows angry when they talk about George being hurt. It seems as though the two men feel responsible for each other, and want to protect each other. This is also apparent when Lennie says " Ain't nobody goin' to suppose no hurt to George". I predict that Curley's wife remains nameless because she will not be around much longer. The setting is still the same, on the farm where they work. Now Lennie has made a slight companionship with the stable buck, Crooks. The vivid image of the stable bucks room is shown when saying "This room was swept and fairly neat, for Crooks was a proud, aloof man". I think Crooks and Lennie will make good friends because they are both somewhat lonely.
This chapter starts to bring a bit more action into the story in ways that were foreshadowed beforehand. You start to see into characters more as this action starts and characters come to know each other. In the conversation Lennie, George, and Candy have they described the original dream George and Lennie had about their own farm. This seems to strike a chord in Lennie he gets very excited about the idea of having his own farm with rabbits and chickens. I feel their excitement on this subject and how much they want their dream to come true. Georges determined attitude fits well with his character when he says, “We’ll fix up that little old place an’ we’ll go live there”. When Curley comes in he is very wound up by his meeting with Slim when he assumes he is cheating with Curley’s wife. When he sees Lennie smiling he takes offense thinking he is mocking Curley. It was easy to see the fight coming when it was foreshadowed earlier when George gives Lennie instructions to “Don’t let him pull you in-but-if the son-of-a-bitch socks you- let ‘im have it”. When the fight started I knew Curley was going to end up on the wrong end of it and when Lennie crushed his hand it was hard to see him at fault. His Childish demeanor gives him such innocence despite his brutish size. I am looking forward to see Lennie’s consequence whether he will be punished or forgiven by Curley’s father the boss.
Chapter4: in this chapter I’ve learned a lot about crooks. Until now he is only reefed as the nigger with a bum back who had a good throwing arm. I found that crooks has many sides at the start he was mean to Lennie and ridiculed him for being white and told leonine to leave. After he was asking him what if gorge never came back witch he knew would push Lennie's buttons and until Lennie threaten to hurt him he was vary unpleasant but after a while they became some what friends
Chapter 4: In chapter four, we learned about many side characters' in-depth traits. Crooks, for example, feels the exclusion of being both a cripple and black. "This is just a nigger talkin', an' a busted-back nigger. So it don't mean nothing, see?" Similarly, Curly's wife also feels lonely, only being able to talk to Curly. "Swell guy, ain't he? Spends all his time sayin' what he's gonna do to guys he don't like, and he don't like nobody." As she describes him, Curly seems to be a flat character, with only hate as a major defining characteristic. When Crooks talks about travelling workers and the dream they all share, that's an example of foreshadowing, hinting towards the end of the book. "They come, an' they quit an' go on; an' every damn one of em's got a little piece of land in his head...nobody gets no land." Lennie also displays real anger for the first time in the book when Crooks is saying that George is hurt. "Suddenly Lennie's eyes centred and grew quiet, and mad..."Who hurt George?" He demanded." When Crooks takes back what he said earlier "'Member what I said about hoein' and doin' odd jobs?... Well, jus' forget it." This displays another character trait. He'd love to join them, but is too afraid of being rejected to ask. John Steinbeck also has alliteration in the first couple pages:"Stuffing sticking out" "Saddle soap" "Personal possesions". I predict that Lennie and George will not end up with the land they want.
I didn't actually notice about that being the first time Lennie has displayed anger. Good observation, especially when upon reflection Steinbeck really tries to make clear how dangerous Lennie can be in that kind of situation.
I seem to be noticing a pattern of Steinbeck's; He likes to start off each chapter with a little bit of mood-setting description. As much as I enjoy the insightful detail, I had hoped it would not be constant throughout the entire novel, though upon further inspection it appears to be. For myself, I feel that variation, even between the plot structures of chapters, is helpful in allowing a story to move forward. On the other hand the description is very successful in creating an appropriate atmosphere. I love the "thuds and occasional clangs", which also happen to be onomatopoeia, because it just puts you in that bunk house listening to the only occasionally successful game of horseshoes outside. That theme recurs on the following page when a "clang" is heard and then "a little cheer of voices".
A simile of note would definitely be Slim's "God-like eyes", which are also described as "calm". This continues to set Slim up as a character demanding respect. The conversation then goes on to fully establish him as an observant, knowledgeable person, who accepts what is. Another simile could be when Whit, a bucker, walks in "as though he [is carrying an] invisible grain bag," which emphasizes that the life of these men is their work, and that the struggle goes with them everywhere. However, my favorite poetic device from this chapter is an example of personification from when Candy's dog is about to be shot. It is "[the silence] came out of the night and invaded the room" because it just has such a haunting feel to it. In a similar mood, though I'm not entirely sure what category it falls under, I really like when Slim "subdued one hand with the other", perfectly exemplifying the awkwardness in the room.
In this chapter, George gives solid reasons for why he stays with Lennie, many of which have been hinted at before, but for me the most important reason is not because Lennie is helpless or because George feels guilty, but because, in his own words "...the guys that go around to ranches alone...they get mean...they get wantin' to fight.." To me this means something, because it isn't just that Lennie needs him, but he needs Lennie. However, that is not to say that Lennie isn't in many ways helpless. Slim finally voices what we've all been thinking in that Lennie is "[just] like a kid". I was surprised, I must admit, when George, who is usually so protective, tries to let him grow as a person by telling Slim to wait and not separate the fight when Curly attacks Lennie.
We receive more foreshadowing on behalf of Curly's wife when George says "She's a jailbait all set on the trigger", and I get the foreboding feeling that she will be involved in a bigger conflict. We also get some positive things to hope for, as for the first time I find myself believing that George and Lennie could actually realize their dream. Up until this point, I had merely assumed it was just a story that George had made up to keep Lennie going. It really does give you breathless feeling when George whispers "I bet we could swing her".
Last but not least, and certainly not the last possible thing I could mention (but this is long enough already), is a return of Steinbeck's one line comedy parts. It actually made me laugh out loud when Lennie got worked up and started "threatening the future cats which might disturb the future rabbit". It is such a nonsensical sentence, but the humour is undeniable.
I wonder if they are still going to have their fantasy place that they wanted so badly, the end of the book may have put a damper on that though. The way that John Steinbeck portrayed the ending shows that it wasn't the ending for them, that there was still life after that, if that makes sense. They walk away from the river in a small manner, just like the beginning, when George and Lennie first came into the book it was when they were down by the, or a river and that is also how it ends. They come to the river in the beginning and leave the river in the end.
ReplyDeleteI found several similes in the last couple chapters of the book and some of the main ones that I noticed right away were; "he came as silently as a creeping bear moves." on page 110. "her body flopped like a fish." was another one on page 100.
The way Lennie had reacted in the end had shown that he was way stronger than he thought he was a shows another side of him. The side that is shown is his angry side. When Crooks says that George is hurt, Lennie gets really mad about that, which also shows his anger in the end.
George in the end, is shown to be able to do something that is very hard for him. George does it out of the kindness of his heart and how he knew it would have been a lot harder for him to bare if the others did it. It shows how strong his character is also. And who knows, maybe after the story stops, it isn't the end for him and his fellow workers.
I like the way that Autumn talks about George and how he had to execute that difficult task, it reminds me of how Candy felt when they had to shoot his dog. I think very similar emotions were felt between George and Candy, because they both lost an old important friend. I also like the way she compared the beginning of the book to the end, i hadn't thought of it in that way but it is an interesting perspective. The quotes Autumn alluted to were also very interesting and if i had not finished the book would be very confusing! Good job my Chicken :)
ReplyDeleteI am wondering if Lennie and George will end up making it through the month of work, so they are able to buy the old ladies house. I would say they are going to make it through, but with lots of difficulties. At this point I’ve passed the activating circumstance, which in my opinion, was when George and Lennie arrived at the farm. In chapter 3, I found an example of an alliteration when George said “god damn dumb” speaking about lennie. When whit and George are talking during their card game whit states,”well, ain’t she a looloo,” talking about Curley’s wife. Looloo is a word, which used is a substitute instead of saying skank. When George says, “These here jail baits is just set on a trigger of the hoosegow.” Ultimately, this means they are just a trap to get guys thrown in jail. I’m predicting that Curley’s wife will end up messing around with Lennie or George and get them thrown in jail or get them in really big trouble.
ReplyDeleteThe book seems to be getting pretty interesting. One thing that I didn't like was that Candy's dog was killed, even though the dog was pretty useless. Candy was sad that he didn't kill the dog himself, "I ought to if shot the dog myself, George. I shouldn't ought to of let no stranger shoot my dog." he feels guilty about letting Carlson do it.
ReplyDeleteOne thing that I don't like is how people treat Lennie, like I know he's a bit slower but George has even said "I ain't nothing to scream about, but that big bastard there can put up more grain alone than more pairs can" so he is capable of working but people just judge him right off the bat.
I think that it's cool that Lennie loves animals so much and that's all he wants to care for. I think that Slim needs to take it easy on Lennie, he tells him that he shouldn't be touching the pups much anymore I don't understand why, Lennie loves the pups and he tries to be very gentle with them and if he's not hurting them and if there okay then there's not a problem. So I look forward to reading more of the book and reading about what happens.
I find it interesting that "Curley's wife" is not known under any other name. It is obvious the she will forever be "Curly 's wife" and nothing more. I feel that it shows a certain level of subconscious ownership. Like she is nothing more than a material possession but only Curly is entitled to her.
ReplyDeleteI believe that everybody has the right to a respectful and individual title and call me naive but I also believe that everyone should be treated equally and justly.
After being referred to under another persons name in that way it would be easy to slowly lose independence, individuality, and personal rights and freedoms. But only in a perfect world would that happen.
Chapter 4: This chapter starts out by using several alliterations, such as "stuffing sticking" and "saddle soap". Steinbeck then uses personification in saying "Lennie lost his smile". When he says that, its sounds better than saying, Lennie frowned. After going into Crooks room, Lennie grows angry when they talk about George being hurt. It seems as though the two men feel responsible for each other, and want to protect each other. This is also apparent when Lennie says " Ain't nobody goin' to suppose no hurt to George". I predict that Curley's wife remains nameless because she will not be around much longer. The setting is still the same, on the farm where they work. Now Lennie has made a slight companionship with the stable buck, Crooks. The vivid image of the stable bucks room is shown when saying "This room was swept and fairly neat, for Crooks was a proud, aloof man". I think Crooks and Lennie will make good friends because they are both somewhat lonely.
ReplyDeleteThis chapter starts to bring a bit more action into the story in ways that were foreshadowed beforehand. You start to see into characters more as this action starts and characters come to know each other. In the conversation Lennie, George, and Candy have they described the original dream George and Lennie had about their own farm. This seems to strike a chord in Lennie he gets very excited about the idea of having his own farm with rabbits and chickens. I feel their excitement on this subject and how much they want their dream to come true. Georges determined attitude fits well with his character when he says, “We’ll fix up that little old place an’ we’ll go live there”. When Curley comes in he is very wound up by his meeting with Slim when he assumes he is cheating with Curley’s wife. When he sees Lennie smiling he takes offense thinking he is mocking Curley. It was easy to see the fight coming when it was foreshadowed earlier when George gives Lennie instructions to “Don’t let him pull you in-but-if the son-of-a-bitch socks you- let ‘im have it”. When the fight started I knew Curley was going to end up on the wrong end of it and when Lennie crushed his hand it was hard to see him at fault. His Childish demeanor gives him such innocence despite his brutish size. I am looking forward to see Lennie’s consequence whether he will be punished or forgiven by Curley’s father the boss.
ReplyDeleteChapter4: in this chapter I’ve learned a lot about crooks. Until now he is only reefed as the nigger with a bum back who had a good throwing arm. I found that crooks has many sides at the start he was mean to Lennie and ridiculed him for being white and told leonine to leave. After he was asking him what if gorge never came back witch he knew would push Lennie's buttons and until Lennie threaten to hurt him he was vary unpleasant but after a while they became some what friends
ReplyDeleteChapter 4: In chapter four, we learned about many side characters' in-depth traits. Crooks, for example, feels the exclusion of being both a cripple and black. "This is just a nigger talkin', an' a busted-back nigger. So it don't mean nothing, see?" Similarly, Curly's wife also feels lonely, only being able to talk to Curly. "Swell guy, ain't he? Spends all his time sayin' what he's gonna do to guys he don't like, and he don't like nobody." As she describes him, Curly seems to be a flat character, with only hate as a major defining characteristic. When Crooks talks about travelling workers and the dream they all share, that's an example of foreshadowing, hinting towards the end of the book. "They come, an' they quit an' go on; an' every damn one of em's got a little piece of land in his head...nobody gets no land." Lennie also displays real anger for the first time in the book when Crooks is saying that George is hurt. "Suddenly Lennie's eyes centred and grew quiet, and mad..."Who hurt George?" He demanded." When Crooks takes back what he said earlier "'Member what I said about hoein' and doin' odd jobs?... Well, jus' forget it." This displays another character trait. He'd love to join them, but is too afraid of being rejected to ask. John Steinbeck also has alliteration in the first couple pages:"Stuffing sticking out" "Saddle soap" "Personal possesions". I predict that Lennie and George will not end up with the land they want.
ReplyDeleteI didn't actually notice about that being the first time Lennie has displayed anger. Good observation, especially when upon reflection Steinbeck really tries to make clear how dangerous Lennie can be in that kind of situation.
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ReplyDeleteI seem to be noticing a pattern of Steinbeck's; He likes to start off each chapter with a little bit of mood-setting description. As much as I enjoy the insightful detail, I had hoped it would not be constant throughout the entire novel, though upon further inspection it appears to be. For myself, I feel that variation, even between the plot structures of chapters, is helpful in allowing a story to move forward. On the other hand the description is very successful in creating an appropriate atmosphere. I love the "thuds and occasional clangs", which also happen to be onomatopoeia, because it just puts you in that bunk house listening to the only occasionally successful game of horseshoes outside. That theme recurs on the following page when a "clang" is heard and then "a little cheer of voices".
A simile of note would definitely be Slim's "God-like eyes", which are also described as "calm". This continues to set Slim up as a character demanding respect. The conversation then goes on to fully establish him as an observant, knowledgeable person, who accepts what is. Another simile could be when Whit, a bucker, walks in "as though he [is carrying an] invisible grain bag," which emphasizes that the life of these men is their work, and that the struggle goes with them everywhere. However, my favorite poetic device from this chapter is an example of personification from when Candy's dog is about to be shot. It is "[the silence] came out of the night and invaded the room" because it just has such a haunting feel to it. In a similar mood, though I'm not entirely sure what category it falls under, I really like when Slim "subdued one hand with the other", perfectly exemplifying the awkwardness in the room.
In this chapter, George gives solid reasons for why he stays with Lennie, many of which have been hinted at before, but for me the most important reason is not because Lennie is helpless or because George feels guilty, but because, in his own words "...the guys that go around to ranches alone...they get mean...they get wantin' to fight.." To me this means something, because it isn't just that Lennie needs him, but he needs Lennie. However, that is not to say that Lennie isn't in many ways helpless. Slim finally voices what we've all been thinking in that Lennie is "[just] like a kid". I was surprised, I must admit, when George, who is usually so protective, tries to let him grow as a person by telling Slim to wait and not separate the fight when Curly attacks Lennie.
We receive more foreshadowing on behalf of Curly's wife when George says "She's a jailbait all set on the trigger", and I get the foreboding feeling that she will be involved in a bigger conflict. We also get some positive things to hope for, as for the first time I find myself believing that George and Lennie could actually realize their dream. Up until this point, I had merely assumed it was just a story that George had made up to keep Lennie going. It really does give you breathless feeling when George whispers "I bet we could swing her".
Last but not least, and certainly not the last possible thing I could mention (but this is long enough already), is a return of Steinbeck's one line comedy parts. It actually made me laugh out loud when Lennie got worked up and started "threatening the future cats which might disturb the future rabbit". It is such a nonsensical sentence, but the humour is undeniable.